Like a lot of people who discovered FIRE and had a consequent lightbulb moment (if not immediately, then at some point), I thought everyone should and would want to know about it, too. So, I told The Missus and some friends. Then I told some colleagues and other family members.
Yay me for spreading useful, potentially life-transforming information! World . . . you are welcome.
The silent treatment
Well, it didn’t all work out like I’d assumed. Instead of being met with people saying things like, “Wow!” or, like I’d reacted, “Whoooaaa! How could I have been so ignorant for so long! Where can I learn more?”, I got a lot of “Ohs,” and “I’ll check out those blogs and podcasts you sent me links to.” Put another way, a lot of shrugs and empty words.
That was dispiriting.
While my enthusiasm for FIRE, or what even the mere pursuit of FIRE can allow for, never cooled, my enthusiasm for educating other people did. Occasionally, I’d bring it up with someone I’d previously spoken with, or mention it to someone new. And I’d always be on the lookout for someone showing even an inkling of interest. But those instances were rare. I eventually all but stopped talking about it altogether, except in the exceptionally rare instances in which someone brought it up to me. Oh, and on this blog that’s visible for the whole world to see and read.
That was dispiriting.
Meanwhile, I’ve observed family, friends, and other loved ones making financial decisions that were objectively detrimental. Or that, if the person was on the FIRE path, he or she might not have made. I bit my tongue each time.
That was dispiriting.
Now, I don’t bother talking to people at all. I just got too frustrated at the all-but-complete lack of interest.
What’s more, I’m not even telling most people that I’m FIREing at the end of the year. And, in other cases, I’m lying about my plan. That’s a shame because I’d love to have people celebrating with me. Not that I need the validation. I don’t. Just because it’d be so much more fun to be able to share the experience with everyone I know, and maybe motivate them to do the same.
But for many reasons, as to the vast majority of people I know, I’m staying shtum not just on FIREing, but about leaving my job and industry. As far as they’ll know, after the end of the year, nothing will have changed in my or The Family’s lives, and The Missus and I will be working until age 65. Or later. Just like everyone else.
Jealous minds
Shtum, except as to my colleagues. By necessity, I’ve had to say something to them to explain leaving my job. What I decided to tell them is something that’s not quite untrue, but isn’t the real truth. Specifically, I said that I’m taking a sabbatical.
When I did that, each and every one of them said they were happy for me. But then they each said this: that they were “jealous.”
So dispiriting.
Why dispiriting for me and not amusing? Or even somewhat ego-boosting?
Here’s why. As I mentioned in my last post, from the time I first learned about FIRE, it took us five years to reach the point where I can pull the trigger. Just five years! Heck, depending upon how I want to look at it, I likely could have FIREd far earlier. Maybe by a few years. At the very least I could have taken a long mini-retirement. But I played things a bit more conservatively. Because The Missus might’ve had an aneurysm if I’d have suggested pulling the ripcord much earlier personal finance is personal.
I don’t know my colleagues’ salaries. But they work in the legal industry, so I know for sure that they’re very well compensated (insider tip: most people working in BigLaw, in any capacity, are very well compensated). Some have spouses who work, too. Knowing a decent about each colleague and their family and/or living situations, I have little doubt that most of them, were they to seriously pursue FIRE hardcore, could become financially independent within 5–10 years. Very possibly sooner, depending upon how much they’ve already saved and invested.
I would love little more than to tell them this. And that if they just do some reading and learning, and commit to some pretty simple actions that won’t disrupt their lives much (to the extent that actions even are necessary; for all I know some might already have reached FI and not even know it) at whatever level they feel comfortable with, they can be right where I am. And no more have to be “jealous.”
Maybe I’ll try to give it one more shot. But I have no reason to believe that they’ll pay serious attention, much less take action, and I don’t want to get frustrated yet again. Instead, they’ll remain ignorant of just how close they are to being able to do what I’ll be doing.
So dispiriting.
And in the end . . .
As I neared the date that I decided I’d tell my colleagues that I’m bolting, I hemmed and hawed about what I’d tell them and how honest I’d be. As it turned out, I took a middle road. As mentioned, I didn’t lie, but I didn’t tell them the full truth. I think that was the right approach and I’m comfortable with it.
But it might have been a lot of fun to have lied.
I just don’t think many people want to retire way early. I think their lack of interest verifies that. It may well be that some of your colleagues have enough to retire but just don’t care to. Reasons such as unknown future costs and lack of purpose outside of work are real considerations for many people. I had no interest in retiring until my late 50’s. I love it now but it was an unknown lifestyle back then that seemed to have many drawbacks. I think a lot of people look at it that way. I think they would be surprised at how nice it actually is but I used to feel that way too.
You’re absolutely right as to some people not wanting to RE. I certainly have no problem with people not wanting to RE. But I always lead with the FI part and the many great options it affords. I’m all but certain that as to some of my colleagues, they’d make some change to their employment situation if they knew that they were FI or that they could get there pretty easily and quickly. Some might switch employers or industries and/or look for a part-time gig, others might stay put but make requests as to their employment situation that they might not otherwise have made, and it’s possible that some might RE.
Yeah I feel the same way you do. It would be fine if people were happy with their jobs and lives, but many of them aren’t! So it’s painful to feel like I have a pretty good solution but not be able to get them interested. And then it’s annoying to not be able to talk about our situation when we do retire because those same people will judge us in ways that aren’t fair. It’s like banging my head against the wall sometimes!
Right. In a totally different context, I vowed many years ago never to bang my head against a wall again. I think that’s why I gave up trying to help/educate people on the personal finances front as quickly as I did.