Pursuing FIRE is pretty straightforward. Maybe not easy or quick. For some, perhaps not even realistic. But straightforward.
Distilled to its essence, you need to spend less than you bring in and smart(ish)ly invest the difference. Perhaps in broad, low-cost index funds, real estate, or a business, for example. The bigger the spread and the return on investment, the quicker you reach your goal. It’s just a numbers game.
A, B, See?
Yet some still wonder how it can be that Person A and Person B, who earn the same amount of money each year, share the same FIRE goals, and follow the same plan described above, can reach the point where they can actually FIRE at points many years apart from each other. It’s the same numbers game. Just some of the critical numbers (such as savings and investment rates) are different, of course.
Oftentimes, an important distinction is that Person A has a certain problem that Person B doesn’t have. That problem? saying “no” to pressure from others.
For reasons I only sort of understand, I’ve found that people have a remarkably hard time saying and sticking to, “no.” Staggeringly hard, in fact. I mean, they know the word and what it means, of course. And while their brain may scream to them that they say it in this or that situation, their mouth and will-power conduct an effective counter-offensive.
What do I mean? Let me illustrate.
Out to lunch
Imagine you’re working hard one morning at your workplace (outside the home). You brought your lunch, as you always do. But late that morning, your coworker says to you, “Hey! This has been one busy morning, amiright? Wanna go to that new foodie food hall and grab lunch? I’ve heard that place rocks! We can badmouth the boss, to boot!”
“Well, it would be good to get out and not eat at my desk. And the boss has been working us like dogs all week. It’d be nice to blow off some steam,” you think. So, although you don’t need to eat out, and after uttering sheepish, “well, I brought my lunch, so . . . “—to which your colleague says, “awww, come on!”—you say, “yes” to your colleague.
Later—not particularly impressed with the foodie food hall that allegedly rocked, and having spent extra time at lunch that you wish you’d instead used to finish your project so as to get out of work at a more reasonable hour, and $25 lighter—you reconsider your “yes.”
Party on
Now imagine that your close buddy who lives 1,000 miles away invites you to a milestone birthday party. Maybe your buddy sent you the invitation just to be nice, not expecting that you’d actually make the trip. Whatever the case, the invitation was extended.
You’d really like to celebrate with your friend, and you’re somewhat of a travel hacker, so you can drive down the expense by paying for your flight with airline points. As for the two days of sleeping accommodations you’ll need, you know that your buddy has an extra bedroom in their house and a sofa bed in another room. This buddy also all but certainly would happily put you up, too. You’d unquestionably do the same if the shoe was on the other foot.
But other friends you discuss this with tell you that even just asking to stay at your buddy’s place would be weird. Really weird. They add, dismissively, that you just have to suck it up and pay for a hotel. You do some research and find that you can stay at a cheapish hotel for $75/night. “Well,” you think to yourself, “my buddy will be busy with the party that weekend, and I guess it would be weird to ask to stay at their place, and $150 for two nights at a hotel isn’t that much.” So, you don’t say, “no,” to what you kinda still think is nonsense advice from your friends, and instead say “yes” to booking the hotel.
Later—after your buddy says to you, “You know, you could have stayed with us. Why didn’t you just ask?!,” and $150 lighter—you reconsider your “yes.”
Rooming house
Now imagine that you’re looking to move from your current residence. Not sure if you want to buy or rent, you pursue both options and ultimately narrow your choices down to two of each. One of the places to buy costs $25,000 more than the other, and one of the rentals costs $300/month more than the other. Each place is equal in all relevant respects except one: the more expensive options have an extra bedroom.
Now, you have little or no real need for that extra bedroom. Each place under consideration has bedrooms for everyone in your household. But you’ve shared your residence-hunting endeavor with friends and family. And they’re telling you that you really do need an extra bedroom. Because where else are guests who sleep over going to stay?!
But you can’t remember the last time anyone slept over at your place. Except for friends of the kids, who sleep in the kids’ rooms anyway. The likelihood of a parade—or even a trickle—of people sleeping over at your place in the future is pretty dim, too. And if anyone does sleep over, you can suck it up, have your guest(s) sleep on your bed, and you sleep on a blow-up bed you have.
Your family and friends are pretty insistent, tho. And they’re all smart and looking out for your best interests, right? Second-guessing yourself, you think, “maybe they do know better, after all.” So, you say, “yes” to one of the places with the extra bedroom.
Years later—long since having confirmed that your overnight-house guest reservations have, in fact, hovered around the “exceptionally rare” level, and tens of thousands of dollars lighter—you reconsider your “yes.”
Yes and no
Let me be clear. Saying “yes” is great and should almost always be on the table when making a decision. In none of the situations that I described above would a “yes” unequivocally be the wrong choice. There’s no shortage of good things that probably came from a “yes” in each case, too. That lunch you took was a nice respite from eating at your desk, and you got to blow off steam about the boss. Your hotel in your buddy’s city was nice, and you didn’t have to make what you were told would be a “weird” ask to see if you could instead stay at your buddy’s place. And the place with the extra bedroom did come in handy those three times in five years that someone slept over. The room provides convenient extra storage space, too. If the room was in a place you bought, you’ll also likely reap part (and maybe all or more) of the cost of it back when you sell, also.
But for those of us who aren’t baller trust fund beneficiaries or owners of prodigious money trees, we have to make tradeoffs in life. In each scenario above (and oh, so many more that come up every day) there were plenty of objectively good reasons to say “no.” Yet so many wouldn’t do so. And they’d find themselves, in just these three scenarios, tens of thousands of dollars less wealthy than those who didn’t give in to pressure from others.
So, weigh the pros and cons when faced with a decision that’ll cost money and dispassionately determine what’s really the best option for you at the time and as to your long-term objectives. Make smart choices, don’t give in to pressure from others, and say “yes” when it truly makes sense for you.
And in the end . . .
But remember that numbers game. To no small extent it’s a “NOmbers game.” Hey now! Sorry, Dear Reader, that pun even made me wince. Hard.
Anyway, who among us can say “no?” Everyone. I know it’s not nobody but me.
You’re so right on all of this, and this subject gets me pretty fired up. I don’t think I have much of a problem with this, as I usually see these situations coming and/or am okay with upsetting people sometimes. But I get really, really upset about the fact that these situations happen at all! It’s the same peer pressure that our parents told us to resist as teens, but in adulthood it’s like everyone has forgotten those lessons. Why is it okay for people to pressure us into spending money in ways we’re not comfortable with?
It’s the everyday nature of this that’s the really annoying part of it for me. That’s why I included the lunch example. If you’re someone who can resist the pressure 98% of the time, that sounds fantastic. But if you’re bombarded with a steady stream of these situations, even that 2% can cost you lots and lots of monies. Especially when those rarer, but way more expensive situations like the other examples I included, come up.
Its saying yes when you really feel no that is the real issue. It might be a big yes to go to lunch and build a relationship or to mentor a younger employee but if so that should be an intentional choice. This particularly kills people’s finances on big decisions like your house example, or buying a fancy new vehicle they can’t afford. Good stuff here!
Thanks, Steve. I consciously included a big spectrum of examples to cover the gamut from the every-day-and-relatively-low-cost-event (to show that these things happen all . . . the . . . time) to the rarer-but-way-more-expensive situation (to show that sometimes these can be really expensive decisions). And you’re spot on that a lunch intended to build a relationship often warrants an unequivocal “yes,” because the ROI for both parties likely is more than worth it.
A couple of these made me chuckle.
When it comes to work lunches, I try to balance them out (or when I was actually working in an office.) Most days I would bring my own lunch, but I’d still try to go out with people at least once a week or every other week. The main reason being you need to socialize. Whether we like it or not, a lot of networking happens during work lunches, and office politics/judgement. If you always reject people when they ask if you want to go to lunch then they stop asking altogether and you can be branded as “that guy” that isn’t a team player or won’t get asked out for drinks… etc. etc. In my profession, a lot of promotions are determined by who likes you, not how great at your job you are, so those extra curricular work events are important.
The extra bedroom cracked me up. I had this exact argument with my wife this year. We lucked out on our house search and snagged a 4 bedroom instead of a 3 bedroom. No extra cost, just have less shared living space, which we’re fine with. However, my wife was adamant we had to have a guest bedroom. So if we did only get a 3 bedroom, I would have lost out on my office/drum room to the guest bedroom. I made the same argument that you did, maybe someone might stay in it once a year? Why are we wasting that room? It just sits there. Let’s turn it into something and have a pull out couch bed or something. But alas, to date I have lost this battle and it sits as a lovely guest room, collecting dust and no use… haha.
I’m generally OK with the socialization lunches. I know first-hand that in a lot of workplaces it’s an unwritten rule that to advance, you need to go along at least some of the time. But situations like my example, where you’d rather not go out and don’t need to for any legit reason but feel pressured to, happen all the time. Each incident is fairly low-cost on its own, but the aggregate expense can be high. As for the guest bedroom, The Missus and I have had the same disagreement as you and your wife. And, similar to you, our current place has an extra bedroom (actually, two, tho one thechnically can’t be called a bedroom because it has no window) and we’re paying no more than we would have for a place without it.
It is very straightforward: earn, save, invest, FI. However, FI takes discipline and consistency.
It surely does. It surely does.